The following chart is from…

The following chart is from the IESO – Generators Output and Capabilities Report, Nov 17, 2016.

 The demand was for 15,066 MWh per hour   (Sorry - Chart did not copy correctly)

NUCLEAR Total -        Capability -9808 - Output - 9845

GAS Total  -                Capability - 7139 - Output - 834

HYDRO Total -             Capability - 7221   Output - 3796

BECK1 -        Capability - 365  Output - 96

BECK2 -         Capability  - 1653  Output - 1113

BECK2 PGS - Capability  - 00

WIND Total -      Available Capacity - 3973  Forecast - 359 to 1360 Output 291 to 1528

SOLAR Total -       Available Capacity 140  Forecast - 0 to 110   Output 0 to 117

Total Available Capacity = 28,317  MW      Total Output = 16,206  MW      Overproduction = 12,111  MW

We are being told that we have a robust supply of energy for the next 10 years, yet we continue to offer lucrative renewable contracts to private for profit, frequently foreign multinationals. People need to know that renewable energy is not CO2 neutral because you have to cost the CO2 created in the mining of the components; the manufacture of the components; the transportation of the components; the installation of the components; the operation of the IWT/ solar panels; the servicing of the IWT/solar panels; the decommissioning of the IWT/solar panels much of which is toxic waste and can not be recycled. How much concrete are we leaving in farm land when we decommission an IWT? How is that green, clean or cheap?. All these processes are very much dependent on the oil industry and create CO2, plus in West Lincoln the equivalent of 24,000 trees were cut down to put up 44 industrial wind turbines. Renewables are not clean, not green and not cheap. IWT's are a failure on every front and only exist because of the subsidies. If the subsidies disappeared the industry would disappear.

People need to know that the over build on renewables is 400% because they are intermittent and only function 25-28 % of the time - and less for solar.

People need to know that base load power is required to run the grid.

People know that hydro is renewable energy, but in Ontario we spill water to accommodate wind and solar!

People need to know that we paid $2 BILLION for Big Becky in Niagara Falls and not one drop of water has gone through the tunnel to produce hydro - the cleanest greenest cheapest energy available.

People need to know we are producing way more energy than we are using and are exporting energy for less than the cost of production which ratepayers pay to Quebec, Manitoba, Michigan and New York State.

People need to know what the deal with Quebec is? We will be paying for it. Where is the transparency?

People need to know what is the long term costs of the FIT contracts unless we renegotiate them or find a way to tax back the profit so we can level the playing field. Fit contracts cost us $2 billion per year and that will increase each year for the next 20 years. This will be a constant reminder to the voting public of the folly of the renewable energy initiative of the Liberal Party of Ontario. Add to that the cost of 'cap and trade' which will also be reflected in the energy bill and Liberals will be as popular as Bob Rae of the NDP with Rae day's

People need to know that there are health effects from infra-sound and low frequency sound and people that are affected deserve to be heard and compensated.

People need to know that the government still has not done a cost benefit analysis of the renewable energy portfolio.

People need to know that people connected to the Liberal government are getting rich in the industrial wind energy eg Mike Crawley

People need to know that neither the Ministry of Energy, the IESO or Hydro One were at the bargaining table prior to  Minister of Energy, George Smitherman inking the $9 billion renewable energy deal with Samsung. (Without a discussion in parliament.) You have been given the task of implementing a governmental initiative that is neither justified or justifiable. You are responsible for providing affordable and reliable power, renewables are neither.

If you truly wanted to address issues of Climate Change you would put forward household solar and help people become independent generators of their own energy. Helping people to generate power at source - eg solar, geothermal reduces transmission costs and losses. As soon as the storage issue is solved and the cost of private generation is less than provincial generation, distribution and profit people will move to 'get off of the grid' and we will abandon Hydro One like rats off of a sinking ship. And all this incompetence will become stranded assets!

People need to know that we are downloading $330 BILLION of unpaid provincial debt on the next generation – we are destroying the future of our children and grandchildren.  We can not afford to commit to government initiatives that do not work, line the pockets of the corporate elite - most of the IWT money goes to foreign countries- Samsung, Enercon, Nextera…- and bankrupt the next generation.

We are on the financial path to bankrupt this country. Many of the unskilled or under educated are experiencing great difficulty in finding a job due to loss of industry, down sizing and automation. Many people have not had a wage increase in 10 + years and are starting to agitate about the civil servants who seem to be doing OK. What will happen when 40% of the population can not get a job?   We need the best financial planners making the decisions and instead we get the financially illiterate who are encouraged to listen to lobbyists; borrow from private for profit lending institutions at compound interest; up the taxes to cover the cost of their scandals; line the pockets of their corporate buddies and tell us they are doing the best they can and we need to tighten our belts, wait longer in the line, and pay more for services provided.

We live in interesting times. 80% of the people in one of the USA polls said they were angry at the government. More than 80% of the people of Ontario think that their hydro bills are too high. Regardless of the rhetoric, cap and trade will be a disaster in the energy field. Australia found that ‘cap and trade’ increased unemployment and skyrocketing electricity prices didn’t outweigh the insignificant reduction in carbon emissions. For Ontario the additional costs will be on our electricity bills Jan 2017, just in time for the next election.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/21/aussie-carbon-tax-repeal-discourages-cap-and-traders-across-the-p lanet/#ixzz4QMDU7xNQ

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